RE: the final meeting of GMSMA
Thanks for the great write-up! I am dismayed over this. Although I am only an honorary member, GMSMA meant a lot to me and my journey in leather.
Lolita -
June 19, 2009 17:20 PM
RE: the final meeting of GMSMA
I'd like to know why, what's really changed ? Is this the "I, Me, Mine" (apologies to The Beatles) generation ?
Is the Internet the final, lethal blow to organizations like these ?
Is the predelection to create so-called Not For Profit organizations, which, let's face it, have, since the advent of the profusion of AIDS-related so-called Not-For-Profit organizations, served primarily as cash-cows for a select few ?
The "gay community" has changed with the times. Not all these changes have been for the better, I think. People used to be driven to go somewhere and do something. Now they just sit, passively, in front of the computer screen.
Why create and share your own fantasies, when you can just absorb other people's ?
Not to be cynical, but if one follows the money, one sees where the people also go. It's not pretty, and most people don't want to look, don't want to see, much less think for themselves.
REAL not-for-profit social organizations, as opposed to those who are constantly securing funds to finance the obscene saleries of highly paid board directors, are a thing of the past.
It all began in the 80's with the federal government cutting loose massive funding for AIDS-related "Non-Profits", which always served a select few, and often not who they purported to serve.
I admire you, and others, for donating so much of your time and energy to something that did not yield you a paycheck or some sort of personal monitary gain.
Is the Internet the final, lethal blow to organizations like these ?
Is the predelection to create so-called Not For Profit organizations, which, let's face it, have, since the advent of the profusion of AIDS-related so-called Not-For-Profit organizations, served primarily as cash-cows for a select few ?
The "gay community" has changed with the times. Not all these changes have been for the better, I think. People used to be driven to go somewhere and do something. Now they just sit, passively, in front of the computer screen.
Why create and share your own fantasies, when you can just absorb other people's ?
Not to be cynical, but if one follows the money, one sees where the people also go. It's not pretty, and most people don't want to look, don't want to see, much less think for themselves.
REAL not-for-profit social organizations, as opposed to those who are constantly securing funds to finance the obscene saleries of highly paid board directors, are a thing of the past.
It all began in the 80's with the federal government cutting loose massive funding for AIDS-related "Non-Profits", which always served a select few, and often not who they purported to serve.
I admire you, and others, for donating so much of your time and energy to something that did not yield you a paycheck or some sort of personal monitary gain.
Annon -
June 19, 2009 18:45 PM
RE: the final meeting of GMSMA
thanks for the write up. there is more i'd like to write but it would bring me to tears right now. sufficient it to say i am sad to see GMSMA pass into the night.
i'll write up something later and submit to this blog for a follow up.
thanks for the flogging and the waxing, and the fisting and jokes and friendship.
thanks to the many men who passed before me both in GMSMA and some who passed, who cleared the way so i can walk down 8th avenue or 5th avenue in chaps & leather vest and expect not to be hit or called out.
i'll write up something later and submit to this blog for a follow up.
thanks for the flogging and the waxing, and the fisting and jokes and friendship.
thanks to the many men who passed before me both in GMSMA and some who passed, who cleared the way so i can walk down 8th avenue or 5th avenue in chaps & leather vest and expect not to be hit or called out.
grant -
June 19, 2009 21:55 PM
RE: the final meeting of GMSMA
Very cool article. You do a lot of good work for the community, and believe it or not, your blog is really important because it provides an avenue for kinky guys to enjoy and discuss their fetishes, which is really healthy.
GR -
June 21, 2009 17:49 PM
RE: the final meeting of GMSMA
thanks so much ... really appreciated your write-up
JW -
June 21, 2009 17:52 PM
RE: the final meeting of GMSMA
Thank you for writing this article.
I feel sad about this transition of GMSMA and wish I had been there on Wednesday ........ I never wrote the date change on my calendar and simply didn't remember it. I am sorry about that. GMSMA was the reason I moved to NYC 9 years ago.
I feel sad about this transition of GMSMA and wish I had been there on Wednesday ........ I never wrote the date change on my calendar and simply didn't remember it. I am sorry about that. GMSMA was the reason I moved to NYC 9 years ago.
Wm S -
June 21, 2009 17:54 PM
RE: the final meeting of GMSMA
Thank you for writing this piece. I'm really glad u did.
G.G. -
June 21, 2009 17:56 PM
RE: the final meeting of GMSMA
Thanks for sharing. End of an era.
A. H. -
June 21, 2009 17:57 PM
RE: the final meeting of GMSMA
Even though I never attended any meetings of GMSMA, I recommended thr the years dozens of men when they contacted me looking for a men's group. It is sad to watch another dagger into the NYC leather community. A few years back we had a similar situation with the Lesbian Sex Mafia.
Sir Viktor -
June 22, 2009 03:02 AM
RE: the final meeting of GMSMA
Wow - I didn't know that was happening.
It really is the end of an era. I'm sad to hear it.
It really is the end of an era. I'm sad to hear it.
B N -
June 23, 2009 04:19 AM
RE: the final meeting of GMSMA
It's really sad to see GMSMA gone. It was a place to meet like-minded men, a place to explore and a place to get involved with the gay sm community. Wednesday meedings were easier to do then first outings into bars. It was great to walk down 5th AVE and and help out at Dungeon Demos. GMSMA was the perfect place for my coming out - it's sad news indeed.
Dan -
June 23, 2009 20:30 PM
RE: the final meeting of GMSMA
Thank you so much for the wonderful piece you did on GMSMA. I regret that I could not be at that meeting on the 17th.
What can I say about the demise (or near demise) of an organization that has played an important part in my life for over thirty-seven years? We knew it was going to come to this someday and it has. Thankfully, and on a personal level, I still have all those valuable friends that I made through GMSMA, and you are one of them!
What can I say about the demise (or near demise) of an organization that has played an important part in my life for over thirty-seven years? We knew it was going to come to this someday and it has. Thankfully, and on a personal level, I still have all those valuable friends that I made through GMSMA, and you are one of them!
R.W. -
June 24, 2009 15:42 PM
RE: the final meeting of GMSMA
Thanks for the thoughtful and accurate write-up of GMSMA's last meeting.
EJC -
June 25, 2009 00:11 AM
RE: the final meeting of GMSMA
I just want to let you know that it is through this group over twenty years ago that I met lots of very skilled men, some still here, but many passed away. I’ve always been in awe of those men and learned a ton of stuff watching them play. I thought that its newspaper was the best in the country; thank you for your efforts on it. I brought two GMSMA members to my town, just so that they could teach our group Sounds. I ran the ’93 March on Washington SM conference with Barry. The transition of GMSMA reminds me of this song. – Jan Hall, former Prez, NLA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px6zUe3y7c8
On another day, c'mon c'mon
With these ropes I tied, can we do no wrong?
Now we grieve, ‘cause now is gone.
Things were good when we were young.
With my teeth locked down, I can see the blood
of a thousand men who have come and gone.
Now we grieve, ‘cause now is gone.
Things were good when we were young.
Is it safe to say? (c'mon c'mon)
Was it right to leave? (c'mon c'mon)
Will I ever learn? (c'mon c'mon)
(c'mon c'mon c'mon c'mon)
As I make my way, c'mon c'mon
These better nights that seem too long.
Now we grieve, ‘cause now is gone.
Things were good when we were young.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px6zUe3y7c8
On another day, c'mon c'mon
With these ropes I tied, can we do no wrong?
Now we grieve, ‘cause now is gone.
Things were good when we were young.
With my teeth locked down, I can see the blood
of a thousand men who have come and gone.
Now we grieve, ‘cause now is gone.
Things were good when we were young.
Is it safe to say? (c'mon c'mon)
Was it right to leave? (c'mon c'mon)
Will I ever learn? (c'mon c'mon)
(c'mon c'mon c'mon c'mon)
As I make my way, c'mon c'mon
These better nights that seem too long.
Now we grieve, ‘cause now is gone.
Things were good when we were young.
Jan Hall -
June 25, 2009 19:06 PM
RE: the final meeting of GMSMA
Sad about GMSMA, but nice upbeat about the legacy of Folsom St. East and Leather Pride night, which was fun back in the day for me to attend (when I lived in NYC).
detroit boy -
June 28, 2009 02:21 AM
RE: the final meeting of GMSMA
Thank you very much for your blog entry about the final meeting of GMSMA! I really wanted to be there ... My hat is off to you for having shared so eloquently about the organization and its ending.
A H -
July 12, 2009 20:12 PM
RE: the final meeting of GMSMA
I am as Lolita also mentioned dismayed and saddend by these news.
In the mid 90's it was for John and me an important monthly gathering. I sadly see it no longer exist.
strangely I did just renew and also send a letter for the board elections.......
In the mid 90's it was for John and me an important monthly gathering. I sadly see it no longer exist.
strangely I did just renew and also send a letter for the board elections.......
Matthias -
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